Comments on: My uncomfortable infatuation with Batman http://ingenioustries.com/blog/2009/07/my-uncomfortable-infatuation-with-batman/ Joel Kelly's Blog Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:57:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Joel Kelly http://ingenioustries.com/blog/2009/07/my-uncomfortable-infatuation-with-batman/comment-page-1/#comment-400 Joel Kelly Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:07:36 +0000 http://ingenioustries.com/blog/?p=193#comment-400 Great tip, Sionne! :)<br /><br />Anon: Very good points. Great tip, Sionne! :)

Anon: Very good points.

]]> By: Anonymous http://ingenioustries.com/blog/2009/07/my-uncomfortable-infatuation-with-batman/comment-page-1/#comment-399 Anonymous Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:07:52 +0000 http://ingenioustries.com/blog/?p=193#comment-399 As far as canon and continuity goes, comics put out some pretty shitty stories. There's a reason DC has a "crisis" crossover every decade or so. It's because they get characters bogged down in so many lame storylines that they have to kill a whole bunch off and start anew. Basically they restart for new readers and the really good stories that got the character right (for the most part, the examples listed here)stand the test of time. That's why the most recent Batman movies have been so successful: they got the core psychological mess of Batman down perfect. <br /> <br />People have a crush on Superman when he is in a movie or when they kill him off. People have a crush on Wolverine when he's an Aussie "Peopel's Sexiest Man Alive 2009", people have a crush on Spiderman when there's a fanboy directed movie.......everyone always loves Batman- even when he's Val Kilmer or a former ex-Robin and Robin is Bruce Wayne's Bastard son. As far as canon and continuity goes, comics put out some pretty shitty stories. There's a reason DC has a "crisis" crossover every decade or so. It's because they get characters bogged down in so many lame storylines that they have to kill a whole bunch off and start anew. Basically they restart for new readers and the really good stories that got the character right (for the most part, the examples listed here)stand the test of time. That's why the most recent Batman movies have been so successful: they got the core psychological mess of Batman down perfect.

People have a crush on Superman when he is in a movie or when they kill him off. People have a crush on Wolverine when he's an Aussie "Peopel's Sexiest Man Alive 2009", people have a crush on Spiderman when there's a fanboy directed movie…….everyone always loves Batman- even when he's Val Kilmer or a former ex-Robin and Robin is Bruce Wayne's Bastard son.

]]> By: Sionne Roberts http://ingenioustries.com/blog/2009/07/my-uncomfortable-infatuation-with-batman/comment-page-1/#comment-398 Sionne Roberts Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:09:27 +0000 http://ingenioustries.com/blog/?p=193#comment-398 First off, kudos again to you Joel...on inciting significant engagement and commentary over what would appear to be a fairly innocuous blog post. You seem to have the gift of Inflammatory Online Statements and that is much better than the alternative, ie. being vanilla, politically correct and...let’s face it - just plain boring.<br /><br />My only advice is that before you issue your next words of wisdom, you go here (http://bit.ly/wWgqE) or here (http://bit.ly/AOFpT) and then Photoshop your head onto a "Cancel My Subscription, I'm Tired Of Your Issues" t-shirt image. To use a comic book reference myself, it’s like Kryptonite to almost all forms of trolls you will encounter on the InterWebs... First off, kudos again to you Joel…on inciting significant engagement and commentary over what would appear to be a fairly innocuous blog post. You seem to have the gift of Inflammatory Online Statements and that is much better than the alternative, ie. being vanilla, politically correct and…let’s face it – just plain boring.

My only advice is that before you issue your next words of wisdom, you go here (http://bit.ly/wWgqE) or here (http://bit.ly/AOFpT) and then Photoshop your head onto a "Cancel My Subscription, I'm Tired Of Your Issues" t-shirt image. To use a comic book reference myself, it’s like Kryptonite to almost all forms of trolls you will encounter on the InterWebs…

]]> By: Joel Kelly http://ingenioustries.com/blog/2009/07/my-uncomfortable-infatuation-with-batman/comment-page-1/#comment-397 Joel Kelly Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:34:45 +0000 http://ingenioustries.com/blog/?p=193#comment-397 Darrin: Indeed! Darrin: Indeed!

]]> By: new_punishment http://ingenioustries.com/blog/2009/07/my-uncomfortable-infatuation-with-batman/comment-page-1/#comment-396 new_punishment Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:11:50 +0000 http://ingenioustries.com/blog/?p=193#comment-396 Bruce Wayne never had a beard ... something to consider. Bruce Wayne never had a beard … something to consider.

]]> By: Joel Kelly http://ingenioustries.com/blog/2009/07/my-uncomfortable-infatuation-with-batman/comment-page-1/#comment-395 Joel Kelly Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:32:12 +0000 http://ingenioustries.com/blog/?p=193#comment-395 Thanks Bev, so glad you liked it!<br /><br />Heather: A lot of rude tones, to be sure. I guess Kathryn's point was of the "two wrongs don't make a right" variety. Fair enough, you know?<br /><br />Melanie: Couldn't agree more :) Thanks Bev, so glad you liked it!

Heather: A lot of rude tones, to be sure. I guess Kathryn's point was of the "two wrongs don't make a right" variety. Fair enough, you know?

Melanie: Couldn't agree more :)

]]> By: Melanie http://ingenioustries.com/blog/2009/07/my-uncomfortable-infatuation-with-batman/comment-page-1/#comment-394 Melanie Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:14:46 +0000 http://ingenioustries.com/blog/?p=193#comment-394 I think it's important to embrace literature in all of its forms. Comics, graphic novels, novels - these are all forms of literature, most of which cover the same basic human themes and struggles. Comics just use a different method, and can sometimes pull the imagination further than other forms of literature. I think it's important to embrace literature in all of its forms. Comics, graphic novels, novels – these are all forms of literature, most of which cover the same basic human themes and struggles. Comics just use a different method, and can sometimes pull the imagination further than other forms of literature.

]]> By: Heather http://ingenioustries.com/blog/2009/07/my-uncomfortable-infatuation-with-batman/comment-page-1/#comment-393 Heather Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:01:01 +0000 http://ingenioustries.com/blog/?p=193#comment-393 Hmm. I wasn't going to get involved in this until I read Katherine's comment about the 'grumpy' posters not deserving an attack... I have to disagree a little here. Yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but let's be honest here. These posts were not merely opinions being expressed. They were hostile comments, verging on abusive. If I were a Batman enthusiast (which I ain't) or an avid reader who happened across this piece only to be disappointed by its lack of depth and detail, I have three (grown-up) choices: 1) I can move on (this blog clearly isn't up to my Batman/Literary standards - there are hundreds of others that would satisfy my needs), 2) I can enlighten the author with my own knowledge, share my own thoughts on the topic which might lead to better content the next time around or, 3) I can employ constructive criticism. These posters opted for none of these options. They simply got angry and petty and let the author have it, which understandably triggered unfriendly responses from other posters. Hmm. I wasn't going to get involved in this until I read Katherine's comment about the 'grumpy' posters not deserving an attack… I have to disagree a little here. Yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but let's be honest here. These posts were not merely opinions being expressed. They were hostile comments, verging on abusive. If I were a Batman enthusiast (which I ain't) or an avid reader who happened across this piece only to be disappointed by its lack of depth and detail, I have three (grown-up) choices: 1) I can move on (this blog clearly isn't up to my Batman/Literary standards – there are hundreds of others that would satisfy my needs), 2) I can enlighten the author with my own knowledge, share my own thoughts on the topic which might lead to better content the next time around or, 3) I can employ constructive criticism. These posters opted for none of these options. They simply got angry and petty and let the author have it, which understandably triggered unfriendly responses from other posters.

]]> By: beverley http://ingenioustries.com/blog/2009/07/my-uncomfortable-infatuation-with-batman/comment-page-1/#comment-392 beverley Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:42:14 +0000 http://ingenioustries.com/blog/?p=193#comment-392 Hey Joel. I found your post insightful and entertaining – almost as entertaining as the controversy that followed.<br /><br />I think the big point to take note of after all this is you're not the only nerd in the room. Hey Joel. I found your post insightful and entertaining – almost as entertaining as the controversy that followed.

I think the big point to take note of after all this is you're not the only nerd in the room.

]]> By: Joel Kelly http://ingenioustries.com/blog/2009/07/my-uncomfortable-infatuation-with-batman/comment-page-1/#comment-391 Joel Kelly Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:38:13 +0000 http://ingenioustries.com/blog/?p=193#comment-391 thenewcomer: Many of us have read both comics AND novels/literature and have found that it's possible to enjoy both things. Your feedback is appreciated though. Thanks for reading! thenewcomer: Many of us have read both comics AND novels/literature and have found that it's possible to enjoy both things. Your feedback is appreciated though. Thanks for reading!

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